why i stopped selling rodan and fields rebuttal

Remember you always get a 60 day empty jar money back guarantee no questions asked. Thinking about joining! I only used the products once I told them I applied the products am and pm for two days. They are educating themselves on the products, how they work, to to make them work effectively and IF they run into an issue where they don't know the answer to the question, there are REAL LIVE NURSES who are available for those consultants to connect with. Im so surprised and sorry to hear that youve had a problem with Rodan + Fields. I wouldnt do it if they didnt have the 60 day 100% empty bottle guarantee. The result is smooth, moisturized, healthy skin. It has an entire Corp headquarters with HR, Legal, Marketing R&D etc. Lost of photoshop pictures and there lash boost.well info lash extensions and can totally tell they some of these women have extensions. This company gives you enough time to try them. Just to let you know, We do NOT have to keep an inventory, we do NOT have to do parties! How do you know that these reviewers arent giving to worthy causes? Best wishes. Why would you use R&F toner with a miniscule amount of hydroquinone in it, when you can get the recommended prescription strength dose of 4% hydroquinone from your doctor? If you want to disagree with R+F being the #1 skincare brand in the US you should take it up with Euromonitor as theyre the international market monitors & theyre the ones that verify the results. She was very helpful and the products were nice. Returned an auto ship item but the refund never showed up on my credit card account. Make sure to check it out at rachelschulte.myrandf.com I wish it was easier to purchase items witour having to call a consultant to set up an account. Rodan + Fields was started by two Stanford trained dermatologists, Katie Rodan and Kathy Fields. I am so sorry that you had that experience! I hope youll give Rodan + Fields another try, find a great Consultant in your area to work with and give you great service, and your experience will be different. I get dry skin on long haul flights due to the air compression and humidity. I was very surprised to find that one of your representatives had conned my 90 year old mother in hospice care with dementia into buying a $160 bottle of face cream. Anyway, everyone thinks Im in my early twenties. I am enjoying helping people get great skin and helping other start their own business with us! Dear Bad Lash, He said I should send it back for a full refund (minus the preferred customer fee). Redefine is the answer! You may need to tweak your regimen..like you would a prescription sometimes. Rodan+Fields is a wonderful company with amazing products! I suggest you start using it again and use it consistently! I was concerned when I went to a meeting and asked very basic, specific questions about ingredients and I did not receive one response based on anything except hype. Yes. Why assume she doesnt understand? I also have several friends who are skincare specialists at a large cosmetics chain. And consultants are barely trained the woman who helped me could not answer any detailed questions. Vitamin C is a potent antioxidant that protects the skin from free radicals, the unstable molecules that contribute to the formation of premature wrinkles and fine lines on the skin. Same as you would if you had an account with Macys and ordered on line. Great products, i was seeing change but this really might be the ice breaker! What more could you want when getting into direct sales?! Using retinal (retinaldehyde) offers more effectiveness than retinol because it is one step closer to retinoic acid. And Ill be honest, Ive known a couple of these women for over 6 years and they havent ever had problem skin. Lastly, Rodan and Fields Reverse Skin Lightening Treatment includes salicylic acid to deep cleans pores and exfoliate the skin. ive NEVER had skin issues, ive had great skin my whole life (im 31) with only a pimple or two every now and again. As a class, silicones improve the feel, appearance, and performance of cosmetic products. Most use hydroquinone for a period of time, because it is not recommended for long term use, then continue with other products that are long term and not so agressive. Check the income disclosure. The acne line has cleared my adult acne and the moisturizers are amazing. Love Rodan and Fields. I wanted to start with the UNBLEMISH. Its really not that much, and the money you spend is totally worth the results. We are growing our business together and are ready to help others change their skin, and change their lives. Now after 60 days of the reverse accelerator too my forehead is even darker yet with brown spots and it got bigger for the area too and it looks horrible. There is NO risk AND a chance to be as happy as I have been. To me, the over protective nature of users and petal pushing salesman are the reason I will not be using this product. Hi sorry I had to laugh when you said they do not come out in equal amounts! Not many creams out there that you buy in department stores can offer you this. They will teach you how to properly use the line(s) & what conditions are helped by which products. I am not a R and F consultant. For those that have not had any luck with their regimen, I would suggest talking to the consultant you bought it from. I totally agree with youRetinol I think is the best for your skin and even though its pricey it will last for a year. My wife faced a similar experience with a return of products that did not do as advertised. If interested, contact me, Id love to tell you more about our company and products. Im definitely going to ask for my money back. In Nursing school, you learn the basics about general medical issues. Seriously?? The model helped supercharge revenues, which grew from $24 million in 2010 to $627 million in 2015, then nearly doubled to $1.2 billion the following year. Multi-Level Marketing companies and Pyramid Companies are not the same. No one will be 100% happy 100% of the time! Not unless you want to remain fat.) Friends and family have noticed my skin and Ive come side red being a consultant to receive the discount. You can use Rodan and Fields Mineral Peptides anytime during the day to instantly help reduce visible redness and uneven skin tone. Im a licensed medical Aesthetician. Many creams/lotions/ and other facial products can irritate it, as well. Their products arent worth 25.00. Not are you your own boss. If you have a tendency for hyper-pigmentation, it will come back if you do not protect against the sun-no matter what product you use. There is a wealth of information and support of all kinds in the Rodan and Fields family. What is Rodan and Fields Lash Boost? And yes, I know what Im talking about. If you want more info on products or the business side I am happy to help you with what you are looking for! Once! I understand where you are coming from and R+F never claimed that it will cure your problems. In answer to your question about the REVERSE ingredients: Rodan and Fields recently launched a new formula for Steps 2 and 3 of the REVERSE regimen. The reason your derm doesnt like it is because its not expensive enough (Obaji) and she doesnt sell it in her office.or maybe shes just not smart enough to have developed something so effective! Message me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jessizca, Shannon, I am sorry you feel that way. It doesnt work out for everyone this way. Drs. Octinoxate is classified as a chemical sunscreen ingredient, which means it protects the skin by first absorbing UV light, then transforming that light energy into some other form of energy, such as heat. I even love their Cliniderm line too! I absolutely hate them. Youd waste your money trying a class action suit when the information is so transparent. If you are not completely satisfied you can send the bottles back empty. I love to support my friends, but not to the detriment of my health. The truth, as spelled out in a company disclosure, is that the majority of consultants67%made an average of $306 last year. Thanks, I am disgusted in Rodan and Fields Response and the lies they have stated in order not to take any responsibility for what happened to my skin. they are prominent only on my chin and half way up to my cheek. 141 subscribers Exposes "Why I Stopped Selling Rodan and Fields Products" as a misleading, deceptive, and inflammatory video with no credibility. My consultant told me to keep using the products as I will be amazed at the difference.hmmmm if I have skin left on my face! And Id love to see before & after pictures of those products effectively working to reverse dark spots or wrinkles. You have some great questions!! your pyramid scheme remark obviously coming From Such An Educated Person , Knowing The Definition of pyramid scheme. Did you purchase through a consultant or independently? My regiment lasts longer than a month, so my cost is very reasonable. I wish there was something that was more reasonable with price and you could justify spending it every 3-4 months. I think if a person feels compelled to try a product they should be allowed to try for 60 to 90 days before committing to auto renewal programs and the kicker is the company offers discount if you take auto renewal and most ppl these days have to be budgeted and jump on the band wagon. The key is being on a team to help you meet quota for time period to move up. I love the lady that introduced me to this company but when having to call the company with a simple payment issue that could have been resolved with a few clicks of the keyboard and mouse, they complicated the whole damned process and was rude, inconsiderate and were more willing to take MORE money out of my wallet to ship back to them than to just resolve it via telephone and keep a customer. I had to stop using the products because a) they broke me out terribly, b) the toner, serums, and sunscreen made my skin super greasy, and c) my skin got red and inflamed every time I used the stuff, so much so that I was still red and hot TWO HOURS LATER. I have used Redefine for almost 2 years now and I experienced this the first winter using the products and I try to not scrub my face too hard with the step 1 facial mask and added water and letting my skin dry a bit more in between productsnot sure where you live, but hope that helps. I meant for NTI liked his/her comment about absorbing into the skin. Two years ago, private equity firm TPG bought a minority stake that valued the multi-level marketing company at a whopping $4 billion, turning each of these flawless-skinned entrepreneurs into billionaires. They do not like for people to order stuff when they need it so you are forced to get on this system where they send you more expensive crap every 2 months. I should have taken before & after pics. However you repackage it and whatever miracle product is dangled out in front, multilevel/network marketing business models only benefit early adopters and the people who start the business. Then are you doing a chargeback? I have stuck with it and I am glad I did. We spent over $800 on he advice of her dermatologist trying to figure it out. You need some to get good results. My consultant doesnt get same credit I realized after. Dont think that you can use the products for 60 days, as encouraged, and get your money back if they dont work. The rashes started shortly after that. I much rather do it myself!! If youre looking for skincare products to address the signs of aging, we recommendCarrot & Stick. As you may have noticed Reverse was removing the dullness and spots caused by sun damage. When she called, she basically said to use them every other day instead of every day. For skin lightening and brightening, the company uses ingredients which are proven winners, such as alpha-hydroxy acid to smooth and soften skin, as well as kojic acid, a natural brightening agent. It really is worth it to give it a try and if youre not happy, the return and refund is a very simple process. Rodan + Fields http://www.euromonitor.com/rodan-fields. I am a Rodan and Fields consultant (confidence consultant really) in Pensacola Florida. No hard feelings on either side. You can listen every Sunday at 8pm EST to an anonymous call to learn more for yourself about the opportunity. Rodan + Fields (R+F) is a skincare brand that has expanded rapidly through direct selling and an army of consultants. I hope this helps. I make sure my customers get great service, and hate to hear that you did not get the service you deserve. OMG! Just saying. Very very expensive. The reason they are contacting you is because the more people they get to sign-up the more money they make. As for it being pricey, just think about it . I came on here to read reviews. The ingredients in both of these lines are pretty harsh on the skin. Unfortunately this was a consultant issue not a company issue. Just read your post, I have cystic acne scars on my face and would love to see your before and after pictures . Seriously??? I have been in the business for years and these three companies are the best. Exact same result. Reading the same response over and over again from sellers is revealing. I am in the Birmingham, AL area and would love to have anyone interested join my team. I have a tendency to forget and a charge shows up! I have been using the Reverse Regime for six weeks now. Since I spent the money I was determined to follow through with the steps. It must be the marketing style that allows them to get away with not having the warning. Since Ive stopped using it I got a huge problematic skin! You can use the selection tool on our website and the results are emailed to you. I hope this helps. So here are my opinions most of it is hype and not worth the money. Nickki Cluck I am so sorry you did not have a positive experience but be sure you have all of the information before commenting on the business structure.. I hope this helps clarify the differences for you. They have hired layman as consultants who have no expertise about skin info, who make money selling these products, and will be aggressive to sell these products. Then I ordered the redifine regimen and she gave me the reverse regimen. There will always be pro and cons for products due to nothing works for everyone. - Quora; 2 2.More Trouble For Embattled Skincare Firm Rodan + Fields - Forbes; 3 3.A Wrinkle In Time: Why Rodan + Fields' Founders Lost - Forbes; 4 4.Why I Left Rodan And Fields - icsid.org; 5 5.I never placed this Rodan and Fields order. PLEASE dont hesitate to contact me with any questions or concerns you may have! For California customers: I have to talk about what my friends and family love TOO!!! The start up for this program is hugely expensive, unless you dont want any products. I kept thinking that I might need to use it until they are empty before I see results, but the results never came. Also, they are not pros. Before their development there was NO topical treatment for acne. I already have long lashes that I really have no problem with. Heres a closer look at the active ingredients commonly used in Rodan and Fields skincare products. Have these people ever thought that these Rodan and Fields consultants use the products because they work and they love them like anyone else who uses the products who arent consultants! Try them and see. I dont care as long as it works, and it does. Breathing the air is not dangerous. This includes my grandparents, partners, brother, sisters and now niece. I would recommend it to anyone that wants great, glowing skin. Any dermatologist will tell you to use a topical cream for 6-8 weeks to see results with prescription drugs. For those of you who are trained aestheticians what line of skin care would you recommend? Starting with yours. It has been a wonderful opportunity that I am glad I did not pass up! Most dermatologist tell you this when you start products. I wont be returning the product as I would like to hang on to the little gadgets that come with it for a hefty price tag. If you are thinking about becoming a consultant, or want to try the products you can contact me and I will tell you about my personal experience. That sounds like perioral dermatitis. It can be used on your face and all over your body. Thanks. That is very inappropriate. What a bunch of DOLTS! Hello, if anyone reading this is in the New York City area and looking for more information on Rodan and Fields, I am an independent consultant in the area and would love to speak with you. I dont know of any derm or dept store that offers that kind of guarantee. I came here for reviews from people who have tried it, and its crazy how most of these comments are consultants trying to sell products. It was a hitand the duo bought back their brand in August 2007. I purchased lash boost from a consultant and i didnt try it for several weeks mainly because i was just so busy i simply forgot. I stopped the treatment this week so lets see if the hives/angiodema also go away. I requested help before they sent the package, however they waited until after they had sent the package and still havent help me log. The formula includes Retinal-MD Technology, which is simply retinal (note the a). At one point, I had a breakout so bad in the crease of my chin that it did not heal for an entire month. These products have at best a 50-50 chance of working for you based on all reviews. In April/May of this year R+F went through a Technology upgrade, so it makes sense that there was chaos around the time your issue arrived. Inna Big mistake, because these products burned my skin. They used to be in high end department stores Barneys, Bendels, Nordstroms, Saks and realized the customers that bought their products came because they were referred by happy customers. I like the one on one support offered by R+F. The breakdown of a skincare system is about $100. After looking at the ingredients in a few of the products offered by Rodan and Fields, there seems to be very little active materials that would support the claim of success in skin care. I had dryness around my chin, sides of eyes, creases of nose and between my eyebrows. I have a friend that just started selling RF and I was curious so I started looking up reviews. I did give it one shot but she kept telling me what to do and how to use it that actually made me not continue in and of itself. Breathing the air outside is dangerous.. Thanks for sharing your education, though. My skin feels so refreshed & clean!!! I just attended a R+F demo yesterday and was sold. I know that products that smell nice have added fragrance which is unnecessary and a skin irritant. I dont think they are a scam at all and I find their prices to be very reasonable (actually pretty darn close to Clinique prices and I like R+F better). Retinol is recommended to use nightly at any dermatology office for cosmetic reasons. The noun regiment (pronounced redge-uh-ment) primarily refers to a military unit or any large group of people. Rodan & Fields as a company saves on things like storefronts, advertising and marketing, employee costs, and countless other things traditional direct to consumer brands face by putting those tasks largely in the hands of their consultants who use word of mouth, social media, and their own basements and sweat to turn a profit. I tried their acne products and they actually made my skin break out more than when I was using another face wash designed to prevent acne. Just write R + F in the subject line. The product lines were developed to meet individual needs based on your particular skin concerns and we have a solution tool to assist in determining what is best for you. Is there anyone on this review who ISNT a consultant for R&F??? And for some it may work and others not. Karen i couldnt agree more from what you said!!! Most r & f consultants I see are young and truly have no wrinkles. I promise, if you are a doer and you want way more out of your life, then you definitely need to look into this company! My friend introduced me to her R&F consultant & I went in for a test try. The advisors first suggested not using the products as much, then suggested the clay mask, then buying some of their other products. I was unable to be outside for weeks, even while wearing a hat and after discontinuing usage. price $10 for gauze pads?!!! In this case, PRAI Ageless Throat and Dcolletage Crme will likely be ineffective, because the problem lies in lack of volume beneath the skin. I had no reason to continue but you would have thought I was pulling the plug on a loved ones life support. Read your receipt, the date is not that of the day you purchase. One key ingredient is the brands proprietary RD3 Complex. While traditional moisturizers can be an excellent source of moisture and hydration, they can sometimes be too heavy for some skin types. In the month of April we were having terrible website issues. I say do your research and get higher quality products that work. Independent Consultant. Called consultant and she basically said I was using it incorrectly and should have followed the calendar I received. She gave me the information. If it wasnt too late to return the product i would do it in a heartbeat. There is much better skincare available from far more reputable companies. What is new is how brands such as Rodan + Fields have taken the peer-to-peer model and adapted it for the digital age. If I had to go one day without the redefine eye cream I would go crazy. My 17 year old son has had some pretty moderate to severe cystic acne. I am so sorry that you have had this experience with the skincare line. Im very happy with R+F, I feel like Ive finally found something that works with my skin type and Ill be using for years to come. Every patient Ive had that has used R+F has had terrible skin. It sounds like your consultant did not provide you with the customer service expected of all Rodan + Fields consultants. I have found other products that are safer to use. I never signed up for this PC perks. Ive been using reverse since November 2014. I became a Rodan and Fields consultant in August. Or some people do not like change and thats ok. No the lines dont go away, soften the look, lines are not as deep. You have the option of paying retail price on your own terms. Dermatologists Katie Rodan and Kathy Fields had hit the jackpot with their skincare firm Rodan + Fields. They are not a miracle cure. Because the company is still so new its a fantastic business opportunity and we are trying to share it with everyone. Her skin was amazingly beautiful. As are many of the Macys and other high end department store brands. You really should lay off of your friends that are just trying to make a living like everyone else. There website does not update correctly. I live in south Texas but can send you some samples. As soon as I realised the reaction from the products was occurring and getting worse, I ceased using them. My friend no longer tried to sell me R & F because my skin is pretty flawless at 50. I then tried to return this because they have a satisfaction guarantee. It is recommended to use the Rodan and Fields Recharge Detox Mask 2 to 3 times weekly for best results. I have had pretty much continuous breakouts since at least March. Pricey trash!!!! I know if the products make your skin good, they are probably laden with dimethecone and petroleum. 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