For four months following the surgery, every minute of every day was excruciatingly painful. Are you kidding? The priest was the one who read the Biblenot the congregation. While I have a lot of Biblical knowledge (Ive been a Christian and serious student of the word for nearly 15 years), I was very convicted in how it had been a few years since I had won anyone to Christ. God bless you, may He open your eyes to His truth, and may He be a lamp unto your feet! So thats why I made this book not about abuse, but about people at all levels of society who have struggled with different forms of shame. Is it winning people to Christ? Meyer teaches word of Faith heresies that are available for anyone to read. It sounds broad, but you think of the kid left in a hospital it would be just like God to take an unnamed, unwanted, abused, adopted girl and go: Im going to redeem all of those fragments of your broken past and put them together as a tapestry of my grace. Your past will do one of two things: either shame, guilt, regret, condemnation will cause you to shut down, or God can take those fragments and give someone a future. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. Just like peter you dont know what spirit you are speaking from. In terms of my own faith journey, growing up I attended a lot of two-hour services with liturgy in ancient Greek. And I have never heard them condemn anyones teaching like they are being condemned here. Paul commands Titus and the believers in Crete to distance themselves from false teachers, As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him (Titus 3:10). Judge for yourself who to follow. 2:24-25). don't embrace the pain of emotional or spiritual recovery because there is pain. If all were trying to do is put red meat before the congregation or drive up blog stats, thats not really a good motive. Yoga. I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. Hebrews 12:27 says: Only those things that can be shaken will be shaken so that those things that cannot be shaken shall remain. Were about to go back out into the real world again and what is the only thing that wasnt shaken? What did Jesus look like? While I am not an avid follower of Caine, Meyer or Beth Moore, the times I have seen them, their husbands were in the audience (and their travel schedules referenced). 21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? You cant add or take away from the gospel and thats what they are doing. Written by Christian Movies. Christines book Unashamed is the third in a series including Undaunted and Unstoppable. New Age Go take it to them personally. I dont see you recommending ANYONE else. http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/, Wow all I have to say is thank God he will be judging me & not you people All I see you doing here is turning people away from God spewing such hate, who are you to judge? But it meant a lot to me that he noticed so much more than that. If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. Before she knew it, she was struggling. In Apollos case, his deficient teaching was an error of omission. It involves tearing down every speculation and lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God (2 Corinthians 10:5). 107 quotes from Christine Caine: 'Sometimes when you're in a dark place you think you've been buried, but you've actually been planted.', 'God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. I am not sure how you expect abusedand sexually abused women to be taught who they are in Christ by men, either. If youre honest enough with yourself and do a bit of research in to Caine, Beth Moore and the myriads of so called teachers, youll find their doctrines of demons does not square with scripture! My friend Alan Hirsch says: We have to read Jesus meaning just come back to that central place. So many people If your soul has been wounded before you come to Christ, it will likely still be wounded immediately after. Why do you cite verses out of context and with no relevance to cause fear and that let see through such envy and bitterness? I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. 4:00PM EDT 9/12/2014 Christine Caine. International preacher, speaker and author Christine Caine recently revealed that she had been diagnosed with cancer. Listen in as Christine Caine opens up about her past and how God can use you no matter what's been done to you or what you've done to others. "I had a thyroidectomy last Tuesday. 2:17). Do you think theres a lack of urgency in Western Christianity, because were too comfortable? A follower of Jesus? Word? Christine considers Joyce her spiritual mother: https://michellelesleybooks.com/2016/03/04/chhave-no-regard-for-the-offerings-of-caine/. Where did you meet? My life was as far away from God at that point as you could imagine [but] I went into this seminar, and this dude speaks the gospel in a way that was just so profound to me. It comes across as VERY condescending, haughty, and insulting, as if you are laughing at someone who is too stupid to go elsewhere. Nevertheless, even pastors in non-congregational churches must still rely upon the congregations cooperation for excommunication to work. I am sad to think that you guys would call yourselves Christians when you dont act like it. was the author of this article abused as a child and had Jesus heal their heart? Return to homepage. IT IS EXTREMELY COSTLY TO BE AN AUTHENTIC FOLLOWER OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. I needed to see this. The hogwash that comes out of Caines mouth, tells me so. See what Paul says of their Ill: 13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. Finding your way back to God when everything is pulling you away(Nelson). Known for her ability to effectively communicate a message of hope, Christine has a heart for reaching the lost, strengthening leadership, and championing the cause of justice. I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow.. It was unarguably one of the "busiest and biggest seasons" of her life but Caine notes that she held on to faith during the entire process because she had no other resource. His grace would be sufficient for me," says Caine. Please show me where one called out wolf has been accused without documentation. Oh, absolutely. Faith? Those who persist in false teaching present grave spiritual danger and must be opposed. #Past #Trials #Tests "Often the very things that you think have disqualified you are the ones that qualify you to do what God has . I did grow to understand the writing style of scripture and understand why Lydia, Priscilla, and other women of the Bible were called out in specific order. What Im reading are a whole bunch of prideful Im SO right and they are SO wrong! posts that arent helping anyone but perhaps the ego of the posters. Emergent Church Simon the Magician tired to grab the power of the Spirit the wrong way and he was cursed for it. Youll find her corrupt theology lacking. However, by the end of the course all of our eyes were opened to identify animistic and occult practices. Its a story that hasnt been easy to share. THIS is why the church has a tough time bringing in the lost. Christine Caine engages in New Age practices condemned in the Bible, such as this impartation described in the link. Hagin (19172003) believed that it is Gods will that believers would always be in good health, financially successful, and happy. Here is a Pastrix Caine sermon review. To fail to do this is ministerial malpractice and harmful to Gods people. She travels without her husband! Pluease! Does the author of this article have the power of discerning a persons heart? I dont share my faith enough (which is what Christine called outand evangelism IS BIBLICAL so Im thankful for it), and I have areas where I can demonstrate delayed or even a lack of obedience. Id like to know. There are many other denominations that have been around for years that teach false doctrines Scientology and Jehovahs Witnesses come to mind. Again, Peter did not continue in the Judaizing error but was corrected. (Acts 8:17-20,Matthew 6:9, Isaiah 57:8, Revelation 9:21). Is it getting people to repent? 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. Am I talking like this? So you never know. Yet for Scott, the negative impact of this event lingers. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. I have heard her speak twice now (both at womens conferences, and its my understanding that the Bible calls for women to teach other women), and have not heard her say anything unBiblical. Discernment As long as false teaching exists in the world, you must be willing to meet this challenge if you are to be a pastor. I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT. Your value can only come from Jesus. Ok, Ill step out of the conversation again. I encourage you to respect that just as you throw away everything that comes out of the mouths of Caine, Meyer, et al, please respect those who are able to throw away what they disagree with while also taking in what they find to be Biblical. What are you making your God? Try the Catholic Church if you want truth! I do NOT comment on hearsay, other peoples experiences, other peoples commentary or who heard about who said what to who when. She notes that the severity of her cancer above her larynx was undermined by people who would say it was not a big deal but she notes that it became surreal to her the moment she was lying on the operating table with a scalpel at her throat. Im the daughter of Greek immigrants. nor is pointing out false teachings and trying to warn and help others to be aware and learn, again you need to shut up and start reading your Bible and learning His word and not idolizing people and your own self made ideals and desires, and stop spouting ridiculous dim witted statements that are absurd,shut up and read His Word "There was a lot at stake for me. 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. [1] [2] gelist, Speaker, [4] [5] 2 Proponent of Word . I sadly find some of this ridiculous. Confronting false teachers is not the responsibility of the pastor alone. For Christine, shame grew out of numerous hardships: schoolyard bullying, the discovery at age 33 that she was an adopted child abandoned by her biological parents, and most significantly years of sexual abuse that she suffered as a child. I had to trust that God knew what was going on in my life and that if He brought me to it, He would bring me through it. Like back in SUFTT? I believe you have keyboard courage. How is a comment like Michaels supposed to attract a lost soul? Our western culture and the western church has become so syncretized with New Age animism that many Christians cant tell the difference. Alison Jones: Dear precious Christian. How did Jesus act? Billy Graham Minute. And shes passionate about helping to free others from the burden of shame too whether theyve suffered abuse, or simply struggle with everyday mummy-guilt. 40.2K followers. 1 Corinthians 15:33, 2 Corinthians 6:14; Romans 16:17-18,Ephesians 5:11). I love you too!! 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Keep seeking the Lord and His truth will be found by you. Worse, she enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids and is unashamed to say so. However, I see the followers of this site not as such.. Heck, Christine taught me to get more diligent about making disciples and you found a way to completely trash that. All of us are prone to drifting if we do not stay connected to Jesus, who is this hope we have as an anchor for our soul.. Deuteronomy 32:30 says: One will put 1,000 to flight, two will put 10,000 to flight. For me, love would not have been enough to get married. Lets crack open the Gospel of Luke and just read it again. It also applies to those Christians that we would be willing to extend the hand of fellowship to outside of our church. 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. Why Cant Us Men Tell Each Other How We Feel. The congregation has a role in this, which brings us to our third point. Grad school is life itself in the church. Sad that some Christians are so narrominded and judgemental.. .thats the reason people turn away from Jesus. Because women did not possess the same equality rights as modern women, it appears unusual that Lydia would be capable of inviting a group of foreign men to her house without a mans consent. ph: +61 2 9854 7000 | fax: +61 2 9831 4999. Youre going to be OK. How Did I Get Here? I have no idea who it is that wrote this but you are a mess. IF YOU ARE PRAYING TO SAINTS, MARY, WELL THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO CHRIST, AS SHOULD WE, BUT NOT WORSHIP THEM. I think thats where it got into me from a very young age, thinking, what is wrong with me?, there must be something wrong with me. From the age of 3 to the age of 15, Christine Caine was abused by 4 men every week. God made us equal. Choosing to Break My Victim Mentality - Christine Caine, Christine Caine and Victoria Osteen join Laurie Crouch on TBN's Praise to discuss how it is possible for everyone to be redeemed from a broken past through Jesus Christ. I felt many emotions and very vulnerable, but I could also feel God's presence with me in a palpable way. I imagine you would get a lot more done for the kingdom of you stopped pointing the finger at people and just started loving till it hurts. Talking about them and their ministries behind their backs is NOT of Christ. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life, she said. And every single one of us is qualified to do just that. 2022 by Berean Research. 2023 Hope Media Ltd ABN 94 284 074 898. The doctrine Christine Caine subscribes to and teaches is Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) heresy. Thanks to Christine, I plan on inviting several lost people to study the Bible with me this Easter season. God bless you. For over thirty years, Christine Caine has shared the hope of Jesus around the world. The smile on Christine Caine's face is as striking as the shock she felt when she uncovered the secret her parents kept from her. Word of Faith is what Gods Word is!! As Ive said before, if this is leading people to Christ or causing teachers to repent, then AMEN. I wrote the last chapters during the first three months of lockdown. Pastored by @ericbgeiger. People afraid to go to church.. So get people into the lifeboat. Visiting Sydney from her California base to attend Hillsong's Colour conference this week, Caine says she was "all in" for Christ from the moment she . This was going to be yet another chance for me to practice what I so often preached to others.". I believe he is coming back. "Some of my most precious ministry moments happened in those waiting rooms and hospitals," says Caine. If you know scripture you could in an instance see where Christine Caine is wrong. I didn't start 25 years ago with a global ministry. I am hard pressed to think of a single Christian speaker or author who I agree with 100% of the time (based on my understanding of scripture), but I am discerning enough to know what to discard and when to take note of a truth they are speaking that I need to apply to my life. Whether you point that out or not. Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. 1 Peter 2:1, Dont grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. Grace be with thee. Yes, I do know you to say such a thing. I have Matthew 18 to back me up.. You sit there and judge others who are you to judge. Believe it or not, I used to believe very similar to youthat as a woman I had no power to influence other men, that I was to simply shut up and do as I am told by the men around me, etc. The mum-of-two, who is now 50 years old, said it took 50 years to write Unashamed, because she has spent many years overcoming her shame and being confident in her own skin. When you question someones salvation, you are questioning their citizenship in heaven. I am not at that point where I would feel confident before Him doing the same, so I only ask that you understand. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. .But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate (Revelation 2:2, 6). Its quite a shocking thing to find out youre not who you thought you were. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. A father of two who saw an opportunity for both his family and his business to get involved. 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